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  • in reply to: Callibration of New Machine #11114
    melticus
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    sorry guys. I’m changing job at the moment so have not had time to get back to my machine today. thanks for your replies. I am indeed using an external stepper motor driver to drive my axis. My 8ntension is to publish my machine design when I get it working.

    What I mean by torque reduction is I observe that while it is stepping, it is easy to stop the x carriage with the slow g1 command. with the fast g0, the movement nearly takes my finger off. Not very scientific but that’s how I did it…

    in reply to: Callibration of New Machine #11104
    melticus
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    thanks zootalaws. I like your process. I will try that. As an update, I did do a repeatability test with hand coded GCode. first I used a g0 based command

    G0 x10.0 y10.0
    g0 x10.0 y50.0
    g0 x50.0 y50.0
    g0 x50.0 y10.0
    g0 x10.0 y10.0
    g0 x0.0 y0.0

    I copy and pasted this 30 times in the file to repeat it over and over with my pencil jig

    The machine repeated the pattern perfectly with no slips.

    Then I did the same test except changed all to g1 with f40

    This was slow. BUT. I was seeing slips in my x axis (gantry). I did notice the torque was much reduced at this slow rate. so I am suspecting my stepper controller.

    By the way the machine is clean. I removed all dust and grit from the drive system.

    I will try your test,do it, to see If I can get any more clues

    Getting close to the truth I think! Thanks guys.

    in reply to: Callibration of New Machine #11098
    melticus
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    Cool,
    I will try the repeating Gcode. I will write it myself. At least I know that is correct, eliminating an unknown. Good practical advice, thanks pca. Will let you know my results..
    Matthew

    in reply to: Callibration of New Machine #11096
    melticus
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    Thanks PCA but I dont think thats it. I dont have end stops. I just set the machine home in the middle of the bed so it never goes near the end stops.

    Also this error happens while printing. the depth is 3 mm and I set the steps to 1mm so the system passes three times to get to the depth. this is always offset.

    Still puzzled:-/

    in reply to: Callibration of New Machine #11093
    melticus
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    Thanks CMCGRATH5035. Here are my files:
    CamGTextJpgs

    The Cam.jpg shows the original file in CAM.js.

    Then I have two examples of the affected prints.

    There is an obvious X scaling issue. But you can see the italic type effect and the error between passes.

    I checked again the tightness as you suggest. but it is solid and the pencil is wedged in very tight. I cant see the issue as a slip though. it is too repeated. consistantly.

    in reply to: Callibration of New Machine #11090
    melticus
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    Its a belt Zootalaws.

    I ran it extreamly slowly ( limited the feed to to about 10mm per min and limited the seek to 100mm per min) same result.

    Another reason I think its not a slip because the “error” is exactly the same every time. A slip should show up as a step on one round.

    I also made an Astrix with the Jog Buttons at full acceleration 50000mm/min and I get perfect repeatability with a 500mm Astrix still goes perfectly to the middle everytime. I thought this would prove no slippage? (BTW I am testing this by replacing the tool with a pencil attachment.)

    With the current setting I have about .1mm accuracy (hope to improve it by adding micro stepping). Would this be a possibility? if my CAM is assuming microsteps then I will lose accuracy consistantly as the motors wont step? I am using CNC.js as my CAM program.

    Wish I had a way to show you the images.

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