Is There Any Decent Option to Chilipeppr?

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  • April 26, 2017 at 7:28 pm #10352
    elaboratech
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    I am very highly frustrated with the Chilipeppr application. It can’t digest any gcode project over 200,000 lines. I have ruined so much lumber that I am getting death threats from tree huggers, and have wasted MANY hours of machine time. Is there any other controller software out there that works well with Tinyg besides some dumb terminal application like Coolterm? I am seriously looking at Mach3 or 4 and junking this hardware.

    April 27, 2017 at 6:43 am #10353
    cmcgrath5035
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    Not that I have seen/heard of at the level of functionality in Chilipeppr. A few folks have said they were working on something, but no confirms they were ready to launch.

    Have you considered breaking long jobs into two or more segments?

    Hopefully someone else with better ideas will stop by.

    April 27, 2017 at 8:01 am #10354
    elaboratech
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    Thanks for your response. Rats! I’ve seen this topic discussed in other places, but most are older posts and I was kind of hoping that some progress had been made.

    My latest project is a 750,000 line Aspire 3D model and I’ve done tape splitting down to 4 parts which still stresses Firefox to its limit. After about 20 machine hours into the carving, the Z axis decided to start digging for oil.

    This is the 6th attempt at various projects since using TinyG and Chilipeppr and I have only had one successful result. Most projects have been fairly small.

    Anyhow, thanks again for the response. If it wasn’t so early, I would go drown my sorrow.

    ***end of rant***

    April 30, 2017 at 7:28 am #10355
    cmcgrath5035
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    I just saw mention of CNCJS over at the Ox Forum.
    No personal experience here, but you might give it a spin.

    June 9, 2017 at 12:58 pm #10406
    TomA
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    I’ve been trying to find a sender program that works well and also have had very frustrating experiences. I’ve tried both ChiliPeppr and CNCJS Desktop Win64. Both have significant issues with the TinyG coordinate systems. Neither are predictable.

    ChiliPeppr gets into a strange state where attempting to set the workspace zero ends up sending: G10 L2 P-53 X0 Y0 Z0
    Once you get into this state, the only way I’ve found to recover is disconnect, clear browser cache and restart it. Even then sometimes you have to keep giggling the handle until it magically starts working again. Several people have reported this issue but John L claims its a problem in the TinyG.

    CNCJS cant zero out the machine Zero but can zero out the temporary coordinates which often end up getting lost after you run a file. The Predefined Positions also dont work properly. You can set them then test using goto and they work however after running a file they get lost. I suspect the issue is I’m sending files using G20 (inch units) and the GUI or TinyG is getting confused after the units get changed by running the file.

    I’m thinking about switching to a Grbl controller just because there are more software options with less issues than the TinyG.

    July 24, 2017 at 9:23 am #10467
    talpa
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    Have anyone of you tried

    https://goko.fr/
    or
    https://winder.github.io/ugs_website/

    With a TinyG board?

    I have only tried them with g2core running on an Arduino Due with a Linux Laptop as a host.
    Using this setup I did have some issues with connecting to the g2core, however support might be better with TinyG based boards.

    July 24, 2017 at 10:46 am #10468
    cmcgrath5035
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    I have not tried them in a while, just downloaded the latest versions (Linux_64) and will give them a spin as time permits.

    What G2core build are you using? With gShield or external drivers?

    July 24, 2017 at 11:12 am #10470
    talpa
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    A custom build based on the edge branch
    (just changes to settings and board definitions)
    Edit: git SHA: af26ad8966d4cd065c9fb08ebdc6eee6264daef0 to be precise

    I’m running it with an external driver.

    An Arduino Due that is wired to a “mach 3” parallel to 5 axis adapter with opto couplers, which in turn is connected to the drivers that came with the 3040 mill (excluding there USB interface)

    The interface / adapter is similar to this:
    https://www.aliexpress.com/item/MACH3-Engraving-machine-5-Axis-CNC-Breakout-Board-With-Optical-Coupler-For-Stepper-Motor-Driver-interface/32781659298.html?spm=2114.search0104.3.1.ES5LBU&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_2_10152_10065_10151_10068_10171_10084_10083_10080_10304_10082_10081_10110_10137_10111_10302_10060_10112_10113_10155_10114_10154_438_10056_10055_10054_10310_10182_10059_100031_10099_10078_10079_10103_10073_10102_5360020_10052_10053_10142_10107_10050_10051,searchweb201603_5,ppcSwitch_5&btsid=450986b2-3e40-4021-93d8-96dcb201c048&algo_expid=19f1a24e-19d1-4b20-8449-db1203261975-0&algo_pvid=19f1a24e-19d1-4b20-8449-db1203261975

    Btw. I also used the 64 bit version of the programs

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    July 24, 2017 at 11:35 am #10472
    cmcgrath5035
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    Interesting; I am not all that familiar with the 3040 mill standard configuration.
    Can I assume git SHA: af26ad8966d4cd065c9fb08ebdc6eee6264daef0 yields a $fb=100.26 build? That would be most current Edge, but there are a lot of them floating around.
    From your other post, on line mode, that would be my guess.

    July 24, 2017 at 11:50 am #10474
    talpa
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    I have currently tried to flash the Arduino with the latest master for tesing…

    But I’m quite sure that my Edge build would have given me 100.26
    From my edge checkout:
    ./g2core_info.h:#define G2CORE_FIRMWARE_BUILD 100.26 // Merged fixes for #267 and PR #258

    I might be worth mentioning that goko has some graphical issues here (splash screen does not go away, content does not update when selecting different things in the “tree wire” in the settings window)

    But it does seem to read values from the first serial data line from the g2core (version information and such)

    November 14, 2017 at 11:22 pm #10689
    jlauer
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    One thing you could try is the ChiliPeppr Tablet workspace, which doesn’t load the 3D viewer, and thus should be able to handle more (if not unlimited) lines. It doesn’t instantiate the 3D viewer, which is what chokes on large files because it loads all lines into the 3D viewer and that chews through massive RAM. This makes the workspace act more like a simple Gcode sender, but still has lots of goodies in it.

    http://chilipeppr.com/tinygtablet

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