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  • #3803
    Andrew
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    If I draw a square it comes out perfect, if I draw a circle it comes out with slightly flat sides. Diagonal lines also seem fine, which is confusing me, as I thought the flats on the circles were due to incorrect calibration on the X axis.

    Please see this image

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/i77qoi5df43ar8r/square_and_circle.jpg

    X is horizontal and Y vertical.

    The sides of the square a drawn perfectly, indicating that they are both set up correctly. The flat sides to the circle appear in all positions in the cutting area, and it’s not the pen holder as the cutter does exactly the same (which I why I went back to the pen to check it out in the first place).

    I’ve checked my GCode in ncplot and it looks fine. So now i’m stuck as to why my circles aren’t circular! I should say that the problem is less obvious / not measurable in large circles.

    Here is the circle G Code i’m running

    G21 (Units: Metric)
    G40 G90
    F1
    (Part: test_circle)
    (Operation: No Offset, 0, T1: Mill/router, 2 mm diameter, 0 mm Deep)
    M6 T1 (Mill/router, 2 mm diameter)
    G43 H1
    G00 Z2.5000
    M03 S1000
    X-4.6294 Y1.8891
    Z0.5000
    G01 Z0.0000 F100
    X-4.2177 Y2.6854 F450
    X-3.6704 Y3.3953
    X-3.0052 Y3.9961
    X-2.2433 Y4.4685
    X-1.4094 Y4.7973
    X-0.5302 Y4.9718
    X0.3661 Y4.9866
    X1.2506 Y4.8411
    X2.0949 Y4.5400
    X2.8719 Y4.0929
    X3.5566 Y3.5144
    X4.1269 Y2.8228
    X4.5646 Y2.0406
    X4.8557 Y1.1927
    X4.9906 Y0.3066
    X4.9651 Y-0.5895
    X4.7801 Y-1.4666
    X4.4414 Y-2.2965
    X3.9600 Y-3.0526
    X3.3513 Y-3.7107
    X2.6348 Y-4.2494
    X1.8337 Y-4.6516
    X0.9737 Y-4.9043
    X0.0824 Y-4.9993
    X-0.8116 Y-4.9337
    X-1.6795 Y-4.7095
    X-2.4935 Y-4.3339
    X-3.2272 Y-3.8190
    X-3.8573 Y-3.1814
    X-4.3634 Y-2.4415
    X-4.7292 Y-1.6232
    X-4.9430 Y-0.7527
    X-4.9980 Y0.1420
    X-4.8923 Y1.0322
    X-4.6294 Y1.8891
    G00 Z2.5000
    M05
    M05 M30

    Can anyone help?

    #3804
    alden
    Member

    Looks like backlash in your mechanical setup. What kind of machine are you running?

    Alden

    #3805
    Andrew
    Member

    ShapeOko, looking back at my first cuts though I didn’t see these kind of flats on the sides of the circles. Are there any tests I can try to prove this. Would lowering the feed rate reduce the backlash?

    #3807
    Andrew
    Member

    I should add as well that i’ve heavily modified the X and Z axis to remove any flex.

    I’ve repeated the tests as 200mm/min and 100mm/min the original was done at 450mm/min, to me the results look the same. If it was backlash would you expect to see the same results at different feed rates?

    See this image https://www.dropbox.com/s/6vqqfwvn4yei2vx/feedrate_circles.jpg

    Could there be something up with the stepper motor? I would expect there to be more problems, if it was a stepper motor issue.

    By the way thanks for taking the time to answer my questions!

    #3809
    JuKu
    Member

    To me, looks like flex in the tip of your Sharpie.

    #3814
    Andrew
    Member

    OK so following your advice of backlash I set about tightening up the X axis belt, and guess what, you were right! The circles are much better, so it must be a mechanical issue. I confused myself, and thought I’d already gone through the mechanical tests.

    Anyway thanks for your help.

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